From: Joshua Kwan Date: 18:52 on 03 Jul 2006 Subject: the Criminally Ungood Printing System This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB6415A1BCF129CEE00F50790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This sort of incident should be a thing of the past, I think. It's quite possible that someone, somewhere, has come up with a workaround that I would be satisfied with. It might even be in the codebase somewhere. It should be enabled by default, and it should work out of the box. Instead, I would have to spend 15 minutes googling for it (or ask a mailing list about it), and for software as pervasive and possibly useful as CUPS, that is unjustifiable and hateful. The story is rather simple. So I usually use US letter paper with my printer, set up using CUPS on Linux. I acquired some A4 paper gratis, and figured it should be a matter of tweaking Page Setup-type settings to get that working. Right? Nah. That would be too easy. I also have to change the paper setting in CUPS' asinine web interface to match. WHY? SO FULL OF HATE --=20 Joshua Kwan --------------enigB6415A1BCF129CEE00F50790 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://triplehelix.org/~joshk/pubkey_gpg.asc Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRKlZV6OILr94RG8mAQIKCQ//Uac7/fEKZSNdZs2T+k00fiVPQUX4p/p9 dwnOuqip4SekHGSqvsUpYCvCbYwx1PEKeqO0+bgHFIQjRrdYFzPQz9QvNuw2wIrz QwImgJ69o2PlbI64+8Lz7FQYkhEHRp6JKt9n7azK4msoaTwcUveDSUJ4YAK+2iqI oQtkqrxkCAvAntSfiivqAterg+UeQmgPg90gqqH25Tfxra/SvdNxLbl0M4L4g4hw t5POSiNDwIo9jdmDENsrUI7C9IHhabpMUoEFEPh7njCzab1R76wbRgTw0g0kV3nf fd9U7H+BWN9SYuKJ2WFAwdtVN9fu1Ar1XnIiBkTXorIFoz1r+pGMGQU+wK8+CgxH 1I7hm6Sy8n1bq9Grg473iHNEkL+Ls/BicFRxIYyhxQGITUEgu/QOAgtxMwNhyPQS P6DThL0Qk4EH2SWU0md5BWJ8s0nWPuiwe/uwolfvf5WgbgkwCtjqBdYLzX2ZLt7a lXezF4qrUaOPSDML808Fz9x0KdGHSkb1sQ1Gev0QArJExAuiMUdFkCz3QfEhAzMh CjMvnQGPxGwojG/81tBUQwTAtZxuC/ZNrddNmNHfSruJeu9HO6xog02L/Sp13epr HR4AdcWC4WFyHmYNCwn+TSn+GFBal00ZZmKgw9TOEloHXq3HlNoTTRRlxdko5iKv vqUJYi0ru+E= =4yF/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB6415A1BCF129CEE00F50790--
From: H.Merijn Brand Date: 19:48 on 03 Jul 2006 Subject: Re: the Criminally Ungood Printing System On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 10:52:21 -0700, Joshua Kwan <joshk@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > This sort of incident should be a thing of the past, I think. It's quite > possible that someone, somewhere, has come up with a workaround that I > would be satisfied with. It might even be in the codebase somewhere. It > should be enabled by default, and it should work out of the box. > Instead, I would have to spend 15 minutes googling for it (or ask a > mailing list about it), and for software as pervasive and possibly > useful as CUPS, that is unjustifiable and hateful. > > The story is rather simple. > > So I usually use US letter paper with my printer, set up using CUPS on US Letter is the most hateful format ever invented. If everything would work out of the box, I would not have reason to complain, but the number of times I walked to the printer (of course full of the only used format in Europe: A4), just so see that awful message on the display that the paper size mismatches, just because every fucking printerdriver upograde *resets* to that never-used format of Letter, or any not-named software upgrade defaults to Letter instead of A4, is hopeless. Either make A4 the default worldwide, or match it to the timezone used or so, but please NEVER make that stupid Letter format the default. > Linux. I acquired some A4 paper gratis, and figured it should be a > matter of tweaking Page Setup-type settings to get that working. Been there, done that, but vise versa > Right? > > Nah. That would be too easy. > > I also have to change the paper setting in CUPS' asinine web interface > to match. > > WHY? > > SO FULL OF HATE Bucketsful of it!
From: Foofy Date: 21:00 on 03 Jul 2006 Subject: Re: the Criminally Ungood Printing System On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:48:50 -0400, H.Merijn Brand <h.m.brand@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > A4), just so see that awful message on the display that the paper size > mismatches, just because every fucking printerdriver upograde *resets* to > that never-used format of Letter, or any not-named software upgrade To be fair, Letter is also the standard in Canada and most of South America, so it's not quite a "never-used" format.
From: Yossi Kreinin Date: 09:10 on 04 Jul 2006 Subject: Race Conditions I have a suspended valgrind process and a running make process, and nothing to do. So I decide to run tuxracer to enjoy the performance hiccups (so what if I have 2 CPUs for the 2 running processes? it still hangs for a while once in 10 seconds), and maybe to hit a couple of trees with Tux's head (it's usually him doing it to me, so excuse my cruelty). Linux reads my mind and logs me out. Out of memory, no doubt. Why not kill the process instead of the user? Is "security" the lame excuse this time - prevention of denial of service attacks? It's *my* desktop machine, damn it, it has no other users! Of course I lost the history of the 10 shells I was running, and was left with a completely useless one from hell knows when. Saving the history of several shells under files named just like the "session name" is apparently a notoriously hard problem - after all, 20 years are not enough to solve it.
From: Aaron Crane Date: 09:44 on 04 Jul 2006 Subject: Re: Race Conditions Yossi Kreinin writes: > Of course I lost the history of the 10 shells I was running, and was left > with a completely useless one from hell knows when. Saving the history of > several shells under files named just like the "session name" is apparently > a notoriously hard problem - after all, 20 years are not enough to solve > it. Your hate about the Linux OOM killer is well founded. This should help with the shell history hatefulness: # Append to the history file on shell exit, don't overwrite (so multiple # exiting shells don't race to scribble over your saved history) shopt -s histappend # Keep lots of history around export HISTSIZE=1000000 HISTFILESIZE=1000000 # Store history in a different file, so it won't get overwritten if you # don't have these settings export HISTFILE=~/.bash_history_safe # Write unsaved history immediately before emitting each prompt export PROMPT_COMMAND='history -a' It's still hateful that you need five separate "unbreak me" options, of course.
From: Yossi Kreinin Date: 10:23 on 04 Jul 2006 Subject: Re: Race Conditions Aaron Crane wrote: > This should help with the shell history hatefulness: > Thanks! Is there a similar workaround for tcsh (not that I think it's "better" than bash or any other *sh - it's just the "standard" around here, lots of scripts you have to source and the like)?
From: seph Date: 12:21 on 05 Jul 2006 Subject: Re: the Criminally Ungood Printing System "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand@xxxxxx.xx> writes: > just because every fucking printerdriver upograde *resets* to that > never-used format of Letter, or any not-named software upgrade > defaults to Letter instead of A4, is hopeless. And I was just hating software that resets to A4 every time I open a document. seph
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi Date: 20:11 on 05 Jul 2006 Subject: Re: the Criminally Ungood Printing System seph wrote: > "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand@xxxxxx.xx> writes: > >> just because every fucking printerdriver upograde *resets* to that >> never-used format of Letter, or any not-named software upgrade >> defaults to Letter instead of A4, is hopeless. > > And I was just hating software that resets to A4 every time I open a > document. My hate flows both ways: I hate documents that enforce/require either and therefore will fuck up approx. 50% of world's printers.
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